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Another great one! I would be interesting if you could do Aero test comparing these or another Chinese brand against one of the western brands like Roval or Enve, usually they test well in the windtunnel.

Boys and Girls sit down and enjoy the lesson, Mr. Peak Torque is about the teach us all !!! Great job mate, chapeau

12:50 Though I’d like to see this kind of QA (and rework) done by the manufacturers themselves, or by the merchant at the latest, before the product is available to order by me, the customer. And as engineer I cannot but be sour - you’ll probably argue along value provided to your channel - about this service being provided for free to them.

Great video! By the way where can i find the graph you are using to find the axial clearance? Thanks!

So, did you say in the end you get more aero gains from an aero helmet over deep section wheels?

@peaktorque ... so, given both your engineering and DIY-manufacturing skills (I'm thinking of the things that you've made that you've shown on the channel e.g. custom mudguard etc) - is there anything that can be done to rectify this issue on an existing set of wheels? Asking as a) it turns out I have such a set b) I have a friend who's also quite skilled in such bits of manufacturing who I could tap up and c) I hate throwing away perfectly serviceable items just because of a comparatively minor aspect to the design. Plus, much though it's important to learn about problems, I'm more enthused to learn about solutions. Thanks!

what is the current state of the Drive 50D wheelset now, in mid 2024? are they worth buying? they seem to be the cheapest carbon wheels at this 1200 usd pricepoint

The included lockrings are one of the lightest as well

Out of interest, what is the story with the grinding disk looking break rotors?

This is certainly making me think harder about wheelset choice. I live in yorkshire and there's some fast hills and potholes.. need to mitigate dying.

I don't care what anyone says. I will take my front derailleur with me to the Grave. 2X for life on MTB road and gravel

why do you give them a second chance?

Aero disk rotors when?

Honest and true review, I simple love the geekiness of all the testing. I so nearly pushed the button on a pair of these months ago. Thanks to Joe and his team for listening to all their testers out there, they are now back in the basket for a purchase

I did enjoy it, thank you.

What is crw’s rationale for going wider front rim? I genuinely don’t understand

Hope you’re billing them by the hour for free consultancy…

Think it was Simon Smart (ex f1) who did aerodynamics for Enve came up with the idea for wider front wheels

Ive been running 28 tire on the rear wheel and 24 on the front since 28 on the front didnt have enough clearance. I tried to google stuff about staggered setups to see if they were bad or good but didnt find much info on it. It seems like the more optimal setup up though theoretically.

@PT how you doing bro? do you have a way of knowing that the products you receive to review aren't handpicked and we would get the same exact thing if we ordered one?

Regarding rim width: Lets separate the inner width and external width into two separate discussion. Internal width: There is no reason front should ever be wider than rear. I agree that they should be the same, or rear is wider. External width: Fatter rim seems to be more stable from my test. My idea of perfect wheelset would have rear wheel rim profile to be rounded V shape where it is widest near brake track for aero to weight ratio. But front rim have more bulbous,rounded U shape where it is widest below brake track for crosswind stability. This shape's ideal width is inherently wider than rounded V shape for the same tire width. So, I see why wider front external width than rear can be ideal. Roval front and rear have same 21mm internal width. But external width is wider on the front.

Your resentment for free engineering audits is utterly transparent. Start charging them a fee with no strings attached- good or bad. This way you can be happier and compensated for your education, time and effort. You’re different than the other YTubers so charge them!

The wider front and narrow rear wheel was invented by ENVE many many years ago.

Do those new ones use the ratchet system or not yet? I hope you get some Elite Helix. I'm curious about those.

Hey Peak, there’s a tosser on RUclips called ‘The Controversial Cyclist’ who is slagging you off………pretty slanderous stuff, FYI.

So the wheels is sent to you for free. Do you have to send them back to pandapodium? Both the original version and this latest one. Do you get to keep them? That wasn’t clear in the video.

7:16 I ride an Orbea Orca Gen.6. The rear end is comfier and the front end is harsher. It’d make more sense to plush up the front more than the rear with hope it’ll balance things out, no?

“Is this going to be a free engineering audit or can we just ride them on a bicycle?” This have to be a staple in every intro when Peak Torque reviews something 😆

HOW MUCH? you know what we asking ;-) shutupandtakemymoney.jpg

Hi, I am CEO of WHEELLAB. Korea. Based on your tests, 25c tires on the 25c-optimized rim seemed to be faster than 28c tires on the 28c-optimized rim, especially on front, paved roads. We still have only 21 mm ID and 23 mm ID wheels yet for the exact reason. What do you think now?

Hey peak torque, I got a question. Say if I have two pair of wheels, both are 60mm. But one pair is 1350g and another is 1600g. Which will be faster and why? I believe both have the same aero benefits. But how about “holding speed” and acceleration etc. they say heavier wheel holds speed better due to momentum but what about the rest of the

End cap slippage may make the wheels measure flexier but they that doesn’t mean they will ride any better

Great video. Thanks. Why wouldn't you want a wheelset with 25 mm of internal width on the front and back? Why 23 mm?

So do the wheels now come with the new Center lock Lockring? Thanks.

the objectivity is always appreciated. and those rotors are tight, love the no bs venting pattern on the braking surface.

It would be awesome if you could add some measure of stability in the wheel evaluations. It seems like this is where a difference might be found (and what panda podium commented on)

As a wheel nerd; always love throwing a pair of wheels to Peaky boy and seeing what happens. Especially when we're doing similar testing, it's always reassuring to get similar results. Thanks for your time invested, and hope the wheels let you get some good road TT results.

I agree with your findings on the stiffness. I have the same wheels, sort of.I have the CS5055's with the 21mm internal for front/rear. I can pull the end caps off easily. I find my Campagnolo Bora One's to be stiffer especially when taking sweeping corners. The CRW's tend to understeer compared with the Bora's. I was really not expecting that with the CRW's. I think the wheels are OK but just don't live up to the hype. Maybe I should have gone for the Magene 508's.

If that rotor is a one piece design i can only imagine how stupidly expensive it is to make lol

Hey there PT! I was hoping you could maybe give a bit of info on the physical mechanisms by which the lateral stiffness you're measuring impacts ride comfort? Are you using a lateral stiffness measurement as a general index of vertical stiffness? Or is lateral flexibility relevant for ride comfort on rough roads in a way that I don't understand? Thanks very much

Nice SKX015 on the wrist there.

What width tyre do you run on the front wheel? I see that recent brands has come out with wider ID paired questionable OD(seems too narrow for aero benefit) may be informative for us see your view on these

What do you think about their 65/75 pair that Jesse Coyle has? Any real value going that deep?

Still the only channel I trust as a buying guide. Good to get the follow up on these wheels. Starting to look like a contestant on Alone UK though 🙂

Very interesting stuff. Thanks as always.

Please stop saying “jiamen” for Xiamen. It’s “shee-ah-mun”, not “jah-men”. Sh-, not j-

It has been a long time since you showed/reviewed wheels from Light Bicycle. I'd like to see it again with their WR series of wheels - they are nice and wide like people want. (or - if you want to review climbing wheels - the AR25 rims) One thing I like a lot about them - you can fully customize the wheels - choosing hubs.. ratchet teeth (for DT - 36 or 54 tooth).. spokes.. nipple type.. whether you want spoke access holes in the rim.. I think they still sell quite a lot of wheels but don't do a lot of marketing like some of the other brands that we hear about more. But their prices are good. Customization is VERY nice. And the reviews I see from real normal people on forums are basically all positive

Although you said the aero testing of the wheels is pointless, I’m interested in the basics of the aero sensor and its position. I don’t understand how having the sensor out of the front of the bike measures its aero performance? Doesn’t it just measure angle of attack or wind speed or whatever? How would it measure the turbulence created by everything behind the sensor? You see F1 cars in testing covered in those aero rakes hanging off the back wing and/or half way down the car. I’ve seen people talking about them and I’m totally confused how they work?

Not stiff enough for crits vs other options? Or worth it for the low weight / excelleration?

Do you think they're good value or over priced compared to all the other (chinese) wheel brands on the market?